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From: Watkins, Jackie (graze-l_at_witt.ac.nz)
Date: 11/19/03


Hi Oogie,

Sound like you have a very good selection process.  Who measures the loin eye area?  What is your percentage hanging and 
dressed weight?

Thanks,
Jackie Watkins
McNeal Az

-----Original Message-----
From: graze-l-admin@witt.ac.nz [mailto:graze-l-admin@witt.ac.nz]On
Behalf Of Oogie McGuire
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:36 AM
To: graze-l@witt.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [Graze-l] Linear measurement [bcc]


>I would appreciate anybodies  thoughts on linear measurement.

If you mean measurement using ultrasound of the loin fat depth and 
loin eye area then yes, I do use it.

>Do you or don't you use it and why?

Again we measure loin eye area of potential replacement stock.

>How does it fit into your selection procedures?

It is one of about 22 criteria I use to evaluate ewes and one of 18 
criteria used to evaluate rams. My figures result in a figure for sq 
cm. I use the figure directly in my "selection index" Every sheep is 
evaluated on all traits yearly. For traits that are not measures 
(mothering ability, horn shape, legs, disposition etc.) I score them 
against a perfect sheep. My scores range from 0-5. At the end I sum 
all the scores and that is the selection index number with better 
sheep having higher numbers. There are a few measurements, like the 
loin eye area and fleece weight in oz/10 that go higher than 5 but 
those are also traits that are economically important so they are in 
effect "weighted" in my index scheme.

I don't automatically cull animals below a certain number but if they 
are kept they better have some overriding good points and they will 
be bred to strengthen their weaknesses and if the lambs are better 
then we cull the adults. If the lambs are the same or not good 
everyone gets culled. There are also a few capital offenses, rams 
that butt me, ewes that leave their lambs or can't count to 2 on 
their second lambing, any sheep that is a PITA to handle (jumps 
fences, wiggles at shearing, kicks during hoof trims or shots etc.) 
Those sheep, no matter how good otherwise, end up in a freezer.

>Has anybody applied these principles to other stock besides cattle?

We are using it in our sheep. We measure the loin eye area at about 6 
months. In fact I'm just getting the sheep in to the sweep to catch 
the 2 ram lambs and 5 ewe lambs I have marked for keeping today and 
we are measuring them this afternoon.

I have had people ask why bother measuring loin eye in a breed that 
is small and not competitive in the market lamb business. But IMO my 
breed was bred to be a dual purpose sheep, sold for mutton and kept 
for wool. My adult sheep have carcasses that are high yielding and 
still very mild flavored. So while I do not want to raise show type 
sheep, I can certainly improve my stock WITHIN BREED GUIDELINES, to 
be as meaty as they are capable of getting.

-- 
Oogie McGuire - oogiem@desertweyr.com
Weyr Associates - Multimedia and Web Authoring Services & Consulting
Desert Weyr - CMK Arabian horses and Black Welsh Mountain Sheep
http://www.desertweyr.com/ 
Paonia, CO USA
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