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From: Leon (graze-l_at_witt.ac.nz)
Date: 04/01/04


>  >>I'm curious Vaughan as to what your observations are on the impact of $40
>>>per barrel oil will have on NZ's exporting?    It takes substancial energy
>>>to reduce milk to powder form, and more energy to fuel ships to move that
>>>MPC half way around the globe to USA.
>>>
>>>Where's the break even point?  $40, $50, or ???
>>>
>>>Or are the Kiwi dairymen going to subsidize the exports by being paid even
>>>lower prices to compensate for higher fuel costs?
>  >>
>>>Dave Gneiser
>>>Berlin, WisCOWsin
>>>
>>
>>Dave is your wishful thinking showing.  :-)
>>
>>There is seldom a break-even point and if it were not for your tariff
>>and total embargoes on items like cheese and you dumping, this year
>>cheap milk powder into Mexico and 16.5 million pounds given free to
>>Georgia, a state of the old Soviet Union, not a south west Asian
>>country as the US item stated, our payouts for farmers would be much
>>higher, but even at our lower prices and no subsidies our dairy
>>farmers still have a better income and life style than yours with a
>>100% subsidy (your dept ag figures) - except for the few in USA who
>>are grazing > 500 cows in good areas.
>>
>>--
>>Vaughan
>  >Hamilton
>  >New Zealand\
>
>Hey Vaughan,
>
>How about just answering my question?   $40 per barrel oil is going to have
>an impact upon the cost of processing and shipping, especially shipping.
>
>You can complain about US tariffs, roughly 10% after you exceed our
>generous quotas (and there's no quota nor tariffs on MPC) but for once I'd
>like you to admit USA is far more generous than the EU where there's 30%
>tariffs.  But that's not the question.  My question was $40 per barrel
>oil's impact upon NZ's dairy exporting,  nothing else, not tarrifs, not
>quotas, not DEIP, not dairy farm size, not etc.,,,,,,,just $40 oil.
>
>Dave G.


Read it again - slowly.

Oil only affects shipping and it is not a significant cost - less 
than across USA.

As Russ wrote you don't understand the NZ situation.

-- 
Vaughan

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