Tom
Gardens Alive sell ECO Oil Insecticide Spray. Look with Google
You may also find reports on mineral oil in New Zealand or Australia with a
search.
The following site is an excellent discussion of bloat
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/dept
docs.nsf/all/agdex6769?opendocum
ent
Carlton
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Of Tom German
Sent: 01 March 2005 14:53
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Carlton,
What are some sources for this product for organic use?
Tom German
Holstein, Iowa
Thankful Harvest
TenderHeart Beef, Pastured Poultry, Farmstead Eggs, Sweet Corn, Potatoes,
...
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I rarely send messages to graze-l, but in this case I would like to point
out that in New Zealand and I believe Australia they have sprayed white oil
Pharmaceutical grade on grass to act as a defoamer (surfactant). A similar
white oil is used for spraying orange trees. The oil has 1% emulsifier that
disperses it in water. I put the oil, about a pint at a time, into the
watering tanks and I have not had any bloat problems over several years
while grazing 300 to 400 steers on rich (40% clover) Kentucky pastures in
the Bluegrass. You can buy the spray oil from organic suppliers. It is
acceptable for organic production.
Carlton Colcord
Bourbon County, Kentucky
www.BlueGrassFinishedBeef.com
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From: graze-l-admin@witt.ac.nz [mailto:graze-l-admin@witt.ac.nz] On Behalf
Of gene schriefer
Sent: 01 March 2005 00:53
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Subject: RE: [Graze-l] Bloat
This works, soap is a surfactant which would break up the surface tension of
the foam/froth. While we've never tried/used Shaklee Basic H, it too I
understand is a surfactant and "should" break the surface tension. There's
another product called BloCare 4511, I thought may be getting approved for
the US. In the mean time having adequate grass in the sward, putting them
into the paddock later in the day, grazing time and keeping full seems to
work well here.
Gene Schriefer
Shepherd
Dodgeville, Wisconsin USA
Commercial Texel-x and Charollais-x Sheep
Hi All:
Just thought I'd add my experience with control of bloat on pastures with
Ladino clover. Whenever I saw that the dairy heifers would be rotated into
a paddoack that had an extra amount of Ladino in it, I would put a few
squirts of dish water detergent in their current watering tub starting 2 or
3 days before the heifers would be grazing the pasture with a lot of Ladino.
The only source of drinking water was the watering tub (300 gal) and I was
there every day to add a few more squirts from a 8 oz dispensor that I
either had in my back pocket or on the ATV. I would continue adding the
detergent until the heifer were moved to a paddock with less Ladino. THIS
WORKED FOR ME. NO BLOATED HEIFERS OUT OF 75 PER YEAR.
Ron Boman
Logan, Utah
At 02:50 AM 2/26/2005, you wrote:
>We are going to be grazing some paddocks very high in Ladino this Spring
>and I am considering using poloxaline in the feed. The cost is going to
>be about 17 cents per day. Has anyone experience with this or
>alternatives. We are not set up to drench.
>
>Clay
>
>MO Ozarks
>
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