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And Dave, it's not just dairy products. This country produces excellent farm
products across the total line of food needed, and enjoyed by US citizens.
Dave, I'd guess everyone on this list could find an e-maill address for both
their congressman and relevant senator. What if we tried an 'American food
for Americans' push, and at least exprest our concern about the impact of
both cheap imports and monopolystic food marketing. Sen. Hillory will get my
thoughts tonite. Dick
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>
> >Still, a consistent price breeds inefficiencies
>
> Nonsense. Low prices breed farmers taking shortcuts, putting off liming,
> abusing the land, pushing cows to excess in desperation to pay the bills
> with an ever delining milk price.
>
>
> >Tariffs and Quotas take away our ability to be good and get better.
>
> All the current system does is create a spiral downward to the last man
> left standing. Even the best and brightest dairymen can experience a
> stretch of drought, excessively wet, or other disasters not of his making
> and be taken out when there is no wiggle room to work out of it. There is
> no reason US dairymen can't supply 100% of US domestic dairy product needs
> and even export a little bit to countries where climate and conditions are
> not conducive to dairying.
>
>
> >
> >I have no problems with large dairies either, but many farmers do. (i.e.
> >a recent challenge for a new dairy permit in Indiana had lots of farmers
> >supporting the environmental groups position).
>
> I was one of many farmers testifying at the recent WI farm siting and
> manure management hearings. No one spoke against larger dairies. If
> anything, the DNR is making the big boys jump through more hoops than the
> rest of us.
>
>
>
> >We need the current higher oil prices to force us to develop alternative
> >fuels. It will satisfy environmentalists and help farmers in the
> >process.
>
>
> Most of the environmentalists aren't in favor of alternatives. Try to
site
> wind generating towers and they object because a few geese might get taken
> out by the turbine blades or because the wind towers mess up the pretty
> view. The enviro-wackos want no additional power generating dams and want
> the existing ones taken out. Nukes are bad too, even if France and Japan
> get most of their electricity from nukes. Farmers are bad because cow
farts
> cause global warming and the city folk should be able to move next to a
> farm and the farm should go away if there are odors. I guarentee you will
> never satisfy the enviros.
>
> And you can see my previous post as to how high oil prices did not create
> demand for the alternative of ethanol. A 34% drop in ethanol prices in
the
> past 5 months as gas prices rapidly moved upwards is hardly encouraging
> alternatives. What we don't need is Republicrats and Demowhores bought
> and paid for by lawyer-lobbists running our country.
> >>
>
> >
> >Those high oil prices are what will give us our advantage. It was the
> >highly valued US dollar that took jobs overseas and returned cheap
> >products that were produced on another country's low valued dollar. Now
> >Dave G. tell me where your really coming from, "the grain embargo was
> >bad" but you don't want any NZ dairy products here?????????
> >Dave Forgey
> >
> Oh, you think that my favoring doing trade in our (US) best interests is
> bad? What the US has been doing is giving away the store. Our US trade
> negotiators are the most useless creatures on earth. We have a huge trade
> imbalance with Red China, yet we look the other way as they keep their
Yuan
> pegged to the US dollar instead of allowing it to float. We don't require
> Red China to buy $1 of our US goods for every $1 we buy from them.
>
> As to NZ, they're located close to Red China where there is a huge
> population and not enough acres to produce much in the way of dairy
> products. Let them dump their dairy products there, not here where all
> they do is drag US milk prices into the dumpster. And further, the US
> exports about 30% of its grain production. We'd be better off keeping our
> grain home, supplying all our meat and dairy needs without importation.
> Combine our huge potential to grow protein from pasture in the summers
with
> the energy and fiber available from corn silage and we have happy,
balanced
> cow rumens.
>
> I'm for managed trade, for US self-sufficiency, for preserving and growing
> our infastructure. Yes, the US can't grow coffee and bananas, so import
> them. But we sure as heck can produce dairy products and do not need
> imports dumped on our market.
>
> Oh for another Teddy Roosevelt to bust up the mega-corporations so we
> actually have competition in our marketplace.
>
> Dave G.
>
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