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<font size=3D3>Mr. Grasser and all,<br><br>
There has been substantial NEGATIVE research on providing
&quot;individual&quot; minerals and vitamins (cafeteria style) to
livestock so that they can balance their own 
requirements/needs.<br><br>
It is <b><u>not</u></b> true that they can balance 
their own needs OR
requirements by selecting the individual correct mineral or in the
correct amount.&nbsp; It is especially not true when the requirement is
in PPM (parts per million =3D i.e. one blade of grass in an American
football grass field).<br><br>
It is especially difficult for the animals to balance their own
requirements/needs when the mineral tastes like #?$*&amp;%.&nbsp; The
livestock will not consume it.&nbsp; AND on the other side, when the
mineral/vitamin is very palatable (i.e. Vit A), then you can go broke
supplying or feeding it.<br><br>
In the late 1970's and early 1980's there was a company in the U.S. that
claimed by providing minerals, cafeteria style - they could satisfy =
their
own requirements.&nbsp; They are no longer in business to my
knowledge.<br><br>
And the best barometer for mineral status of any livestock is to conduct
Liver Biopsies of a representative sample of the herd or flock while =
they
have been grazing (for several months) on the range/paddock that =
supplies
their forage/nutrition.<br><br>
IIt is not best to only sample a single animal that died or the barren
heifer that you have been feeding &quot;brought in or truck in&quot;
supplied grain or feed&nbsp; The reason being is that feed may already =
be
&quot;fortified&quot; with minerals/vitamins or came from or was grown =
in
an area that was adequate or had high levels of a particular
mineral.<br><br>
Be cautious and ask questions of scientists, veterinarians, professors,
cooperative extension specialists if you have been told something that =
is
hard to believe.<br><br>
Gary<br><br>
At 10:16 AM 4/14/2006 +1000, AgriSolutions wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3Dcite>Hello Ann,<br><br>
I recommend the Pat Coleby ideas to many clients and friends who
manage<br>
animals with the proviso that they have to understand what the
likely<br>
mineral deficiencies are in the environment in which the animals grow.
<br><br>
If their diet is limited in any of the trace and basic elements (you
can<br>
check by soil or foliar testing of pasture), they will seek these in<br>
whatever form can be readily obtained. I suggest the use of the
ingredients<br>
she suggests (copper sulphate, sulphur, salt, dolomite, seaweed
meal)but<br>
that they be made available as separate items so that the stock can
select<br>
what they want when they want it. There have been times I know of
where<br>
liver copper toxicity has been a problem because the animal has taken
the<br>
mix and ingested more copper than it required. It was most likely
needing<br>
more seaweed meal than the copper but found itself being poisoned by
the<br>
imbalance.<br><br>
In short, check the background mineral status in your area and of
the<br>
brought in feed and make the individual ingredients available
free-choice.<br><br>
Best regards,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Gerhard Grasser<br>
&nbsp;<br>
(Hon) Secretary, Organic Federation of Australia<br>
Chair, Traders &amp; Intermedaries Advisory Board, OFA
<a href=3D"http://www.ofa.org.au/">www.ofa.org.au
</a>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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AgriSolutions Pty Ltd<br>
&nbsp;<br>
PO Box 81<br>
Darnum VIC 3822<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Phone 03 5627 8663<br>
Fax&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 03 5627 8663 (by 
arrangement)<br>
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Email&nbsp; seagrow@dcsi.net.au<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: graze-l-admin@witt.ac.nz
[<a href=3D"mailto:graze-l-admin@witt.ac.nz">
mailto:graze-l-admin@witt.ac.nz</a>] On Behalf<br>
Of Ann Tiplady &amp; John Sease<br>
Sent: Friday, 14 April 2006 3:42 AM<br>
To: graze-l@witt.ac.nz<br>
Subject: [Graze-l] Cu, S, and Ca/Mg for beef and sheep<br><br>
Anyone have any experience with using high Cu and/or S mineral mixes =
such
as<br><br>
suggested by Pat Coleby, for beef or sheep?<br><br>
She recommends using dolomite as part of the mix, or sometimes offering
<br>
plain dolomite.&nbsp; Anyone have any experience with this?&nbsp; Is
there a special <br>
form of dolomite, or should I just buy something at a garden shop?&nbsp;
Will <br>
your animals eat it?<br><br>
thanks, Ann<br>
Vermont<br><br>
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