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From: suzie & tom mason (graze-l_at_witt.ac.nz)
Date: 01/22/06


A sense of community ? Do you mean that a 50 cow farmer in Wisconsin 
belongs to the same community as a 10000 cow farmer in California ? I 
dont think so. What a sense of community does is generate attitudes that 
are local and parochial. Those attitudes are what prevent co-ops getting 
the mass they need to influence a market through commercial power. You 
are extremely fortunate to have  Capper-Volstad  and equally stupid not 
to use that advantage. Instead of  taking control of your own future you 
seem happy to use the vagaries of your political system which gives 
power in the senate to rural America way out of proportion to its 
population base.

Agricultural co-ops are hindered Internationally by the doctrine that 
comes out of the ICA, an organisation dominated by people who see 
co-operatives as a means to achieve social and political ideals whereas 
farmers need a co-op that delivers financial performance. Don't blame a 
lack of leadership in your co-ops, you get the leaders you deserve, the 
problem is the outdated attitudes of the members.

Tom Mason
Canterbury
NZ



Dave Gneiser wrote:

>
> I have a somewhat different view.  I'm pretty sure desperation has 
> little to
> do with cooperation among farmers, nor does presence of price supports.
>
> I have some personal experience with this.
>
> I 'm pretty sure that farmers will not co-operate unless they have a 
> sense of
> community.  And not just a community existing at one point in time, but a
> community coherent over at least several generations.
>
> In other words, if they "KNOW" that "we are all in this 
together" and 
> that
> "the children are going to be farming", then for the good of 
that 
> community,
> they will make costly sacrifices, such as paying coop dues and capital
> retains (at the milk coop). or investing personal time and effort (at the
> produce auction).
>
> F. W. Owen
>
>
> I think you're on target.   Farmers  were conditioned to believe that 
> other farmers were competitors instead of members of the same 
> profession with common goals.   The farmer in any of the other 49 
> states is a fellow farmer, not a competitor.
>
> There was a period of time where neighborhood farmers banded together 
> for threshing crews, building construction, not unlike the Amish still 
> do.  Then along came  the machinery where each farmer could farm 
> independent  of his neighbors.  Big  mistake.  But we're moving out of 
> that era. Custom planting,  custom harvesting is more widely 
> available.  There are dairymen who buy all feed in, rather than grow 
> crops.  Many of the grazers have moved in  this direction.
>
> And eventually, US co-ops will either change to  serve the members or  
> the members  will  form co-ops that will.
>
> Dave G.
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