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From: William Burgess (graze-l_at_witt.ac.nz)
Date: 06/08/06



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    Its pretty easy to put fences up yourself, you will save a lot of money. =
     We
    use 4 wire fences on our tracks and 2 wire fences between paddocks.
    
    Michelle.
    
    
    
    On 6/8/06, racine <plum@pshift.com> wrote:
    >
    >  In northern New England fencing contractors who build good five =
    strand
    > high-tensile fence are few and far-between. The bottom line is it is =
    almost
    > impossible to find a good fencing contractor who will come to your =
    farm with
    > a crew and build fence quicly. There are several USDA cost-sharing =
    programs
    > (GRP, CREP etc.) requiring fence building but we can not find a =
    contractor
    > to do the work. Does anyone have a list of names for fencing =
    contractors
    > anywhere in the NE who can travel here (Vt mainly) to build fence. I =
    can
    > line up a month or more of work. Thank you. Chuck Racine Barnet Vt.
    > 802-584-3772
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > *From:* Melody & Brad Cowan <cowandairy@charter.net>
    > *To:* graze-l@witt.ac.nz
    > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:04 PM
    > *Subject:* Re: [Graze-l] Subsidies and USA tariffs
    >
    > Bernie
    > I was taking Dave's advice and thinking outside my box, although not =
    the
    > direction he would like.
    > No I have not been there but have read about huge amounts of warm =
    season
    > grasses they grow. In order to keep any kind quality in warm season =
    grasses
    > they need to be kept shorter than cool season grasses. From what I =
    read in
    > NZ nobody really likes Bermuda grass but when it takes over the farm =
    you
    > either adapt or find another farm. Production per cow is lower in =
    Northland
    > than elsewhere in NZ because of this. What I am discovering here where =
    I am
    > is that We need a higher stalking rate in order to properly develop =
    our
    > pastures.
    >
    > Brad Cowan
    > Astoria, Oregon
    >  On Jun 7, 2006, at 7:59 AM, Bernie VanDalfsen wrote:
    >
    >   There is one universal fact that Vaughan told me the fist time we =
    met
    > over 15 years ago, is that no matter where you go in the world or what =
    the
    > production model is, the price received for the product is always =
    within 10
    > percent of the cost of production.
    >  The only thing that matters is how much better than the average you =
    are.
    >  Dave, if you were to get double the milk price you get now, you would
    > still be complaining.
    >  Yup,with Dick by his side. Stop all imports and US dairyman will =
    increase
    > production and drive the price back down to cost of production and the
    > whining starts all over again.
    >
    > We probably have the natural resources in this country to produce milk =
    for
    > far less than the kiwis. What we do not have in the dairy industry in =
    this
    > country are entrepreneurs. Maybe the new production model for dairy in =
    this
    > country is 2000 acre dairies in Mississippi or Arkansas with =
    production per
    > cow lower than the kiwi system with cows lasting to 10+ years.
    >  Interesting Brad. Have you been there or how do you come to this? I =
    was
    > in Louisiana in January and i see lots of potential. Close to a milk =
    deficit
    > region. Cheap irrigation. Supplement feeds right there. Some large =
    tracts of
    > land. Just lack of infrastructure. But you get a few operators that =
    put in
    > several 5-1000 cow set-ups as the kiwis will have done here before =
    long and
    > infrastructure will follow. Just need about 10,000 cows among say 5
    > owners. Once they prove the model the rest will follow. Just as has =
    happened
    > in west Texas/ east New Mexico.
    >  Bernie
    > Reeds, Mo.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    
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