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From: Dave Gneiser (graze-l_at_witt.ac.nz)
Date: 01/18/07


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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Lucas
  To: graze-l@witt.ac.nz
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:14 AM
  Subject: Re: Grazing Vetch ?'s


  All right Dave, you win...<grin>

  I stand corrected.  Should read: "like most legumes..."

  Feeding hay, but still grazing some in VA....I'd grazed more if my 
line fences were better.

  Steve

  Steve Lucas

  The Chinese "curse" or "blessing" 
is................"May you live in 
interesting times."

  Indeed we do live in interesting times.

  The poor folks out West have dead cattle, and cattle that have 
significant setbacks arising from the recent snow and ice storms.  The 
added whammy is they were drought impacts for pasture and hay last 
summer.  Meanwhile rising grain prices are rippling through the markets 
depressing the prices of calves and feeders.

  For some, conditions add up to disaster.  For some, conditions add up 
to opportunity.  I see opportunity because here in WI we've had a very 
easy winter.  I'm long on hay and corn silage.  Short on cattle numbers. 
 And lots of acres behind fences once green up begins.  So opportunity 
knocks. 

  I've educated myself on grass and legume varieties over the years.  
Actually, my research into Berseem clover was primarily into it's 
potential to fix N as a cover crop following winter wheat harvest.  Then 
no-till planting corn into the clover cover crop in 2008.  The no-bloat 
characteristic might be of use for someone else, though.  Opportunity 
knocks.

  Recently had a discussion with a fellow grazer (he's organic 
certified, I'm "natural") on his results from grazing brassicas by 
his 
dairy cows and heifers.  He noticed tremedous positives on his heifers 
(and certainly the cows did well, but the difference wasn't as obvious). 
 Another opportunity to put gain on dairy or beef animals in a rising 
grain market.  The less grain I feed, is more I have to sell at prices.  
Opportunity knocks.  GRAZE just covered some great discussions from 
grazers as to what levels of grain feeding are profitable (Jan. 2007 
issue of GRAZE,
  www.grazeonline.com

  and once again GRAZE proves well worth it's subscription price.  So 
again folks, opportunity knocks.  But don't forget our winter storm 
battered fellow American farmers out West in your prayers.  I  take no 
joy in the misery of other farmers.

  Dave G.
  WisCOWsin

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