On Mar 8, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Dave Gneiser wrote:
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cowan Dairy"
> <cowandairy@charter.net>
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>> If i understand this right, you don't even graze dairy cows for a
>> living so I do not know how you come off as such an authority.
>> Brad Cowan
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> My family farm had dairy cows from 1883 until 2003, when my wife's
> cancer forced a move into raising Holstein steers.
> I milked cows before you were born.
So did WD Hoard.
> I cite other sources as authorities, such as the UW, Cornell, Larry
> Tranel, Tom Kriegel, GRAZE etc. but apparently you blow right past
> that for some unknown reason and attack the messenger.
What kind of experience do these people have in developing grass
based dairy systems. Apparently there is a surplus of experts in
Wisconsin. We have some of your Wisconsin boys out here at Oregon St.
we would like to send back.
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> In addition, I've devoted a great deal of study of legumes and
> grasses since the early 1990's in order to help other WI farmers
> sort through all the magic foo-foo dust claims. TF was just one of
> those magic seeds sold as "soft leaved" "palatable" "cows will dive
> right in and eat" deals that hasn't performed as advertised here in
> WI. Buyer beware.
Also beware of prg salesmen who market the same Dutch grass seed in
Wisconsin and Oregon and Missouri and California and Vermont, etc.
etc. saying will last forever and charge you double for the privilage
of planting their seeds
Brad Cowan
Astoria Oregon.
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> Chill Brad.
> Dave G.
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