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From: William Burgess (graze-l_at_witt.ac.nz)
Date: 03/09/08


Dave

You talk so much crap on this forum and start arguments that have no
merit what so ever.  Brad is a successful large grass based dairy
farmer and you raise a few dairy heifers, give me a break.  To much of
information related to pasture based dairy farming coming from the US
is mostly peoples personal opinion which unfortunately is difficult to
quantify and evaluate.  There is great opportunity for grass based
dairy farms in US and some people are already taking advantage this as
we speak.  Dave you should spend less time talking and more time
asking questions on this forum as it seems to me you have a great deal
to learn.

As I see it, a lot US dairy farmers went to grazing because they were
not making any money as confinement dairy farmers and read a few
articles on grazing and decided to give it a try.  You seem to fit in
this category as a wannabe grazer with just enough knowledge to make
yourself look foolish.

By the way Dave I have a few questions for you,

1.  What is your grazing rotation length right now, next month and
your balance date when supply = demand?
2.  How much on avg do you grow a year in DM of grass, what % do you
utilize and what equation do you use on your plate meter during the
season?
3.  What kind of protein %, ME ,ADF and NDF do you see during the year.
4.  What are your post and pre-grazing heights that you try to achieve?
3.  What is you stocking rate and how did you come to this and why?

These are the type of questions we should be asking on this forum not
attacking successful farmers that are kind enough to give us input
that we can use for our operations.  Give it a try Dave.

William Burgess





On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Cowan Dairy <cowandairy@charter.net> wrote:
>
>  >
>
>  Dave
>  I certainly do not know all but have enough common sense to listen to
>  people who are really  good at what we are trying to do. There are
>  people on this list that are doing well  grazing cows without much
>  corn. I was at the mid Atalntic dairy grazing conference fall 2006, I
>  would say we were on the same page with most of the people we met
>  there. Phil Knight got a C grade on his masters thesis at Stanford
>  because it was not realistic. It was how he would build a shoe
>  company from scratch into the biggest in the US. Why don't you talk
>  about how to make money with holstein steers. I do not have a clue.
>
>  Brad Cowan
>  Astoria, Oregon
>
>
> > Well folks apparently Brad knows all.....have a nice life.
>  > Dave G.
>  > WisCOWsin
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