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Up here in zone 3, I bought 25 to sell, in the nursery. the ones that
didn't sell, I kept some in pots and some in the ground. No protection.
A few survived for a year or two, and then disappeared.
One client asked for a replacement.
Diana, Marshall county
----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara A Gasterland
To: Master Gardener MN.
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
I did not buy any of the Carpet roses but I remember how there was a
huge flush of marketing for them seemed like someone had spent alot
of
money on ads etc. and not any info on the actual hardiness of them and
from my recollection many were lost thru the winter. As MG all we
could speak on was the great advertising but new nothing more about
them. I still see them out there in the nurseries but not like it was
from the beginning.
Maybe I'm all wet here and out of line. Any of you rosarians have any
comments and actual experience.
It's a known phenomenon to have introduction put out before the trials
are done sometimes. It is a lengthy and costly process to breed and
trial plants and then introduce them. Sometimes some of the steps get
cut short or eliminated.
Is there less of a chance for that to happen when it is a University
Introduction as opposed to a nursery introduction? I wonder.
Barb G. henn. Co.
On Monday, August 2, 2004, at 08:04 AM, George and Mary Devinny wrote:
> What exactly didn't you like about the carpet roses. I had three
> whites
> that last three seasons without protection and I thought they were
> lovely,
> no disease etc.
> Mary D Olmsted Cty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barbara A Gasterland" <barbski@mn.rr.com>
> To: "Master Gardener MN." <Mastgar@extension.umn.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
>
>
>> I'd sure would want to know the history of this before I would be
>> recommending it to anyone or trying it myself. By History I mean
has
>> it
>> been trialed to know it is for sure sterile etc.
>> Guess I'm a bit pessimistic about such things. Sometimes it seems
that
>> people spend money on marketing rather than trials and research.
Like
>> what seemed to be the case with the Carpet Roses a few years back.
>> Barb G. Henn. Co.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 02:21 PM, Art Schoot wrote:
>>
>>> I recently ran across a new variety of "buckthorn" that will not
>>> produce
>>> seeds. It is again being used in hedges, etc. I wish I could
>>> remember
>>> where I saw it, but can not,so am wondering if anyone else has
seen
>>> info on
>>> it. I think we will have to be more specific when discussing this
>>> particular plant and not condemn it based on the name buckthorn!!!
I
>>> will
>>> try to find the source of the info and will pass it on.
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mastgar-admin@extension.umn.edu
>>> [mailto:mastgar-admin@extension.umn.edu]On Behalf Of Beth R.
Jarvis
>>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 3:46 PM
>>> To: mastgar@extension.umn.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Cindy,
>>>
>>> Dr. Eisel retired has been retired for some time. (I never met
>>> him. )
>>>
>>> We've lost so many extension faculty appointments that there's
simply
>>> no one
>>> to do a lot of this. Realize, when you read about how the U's
>>> funding
>>> is at
>>> a level
>>> commeasurate w/what it was 20 yrs. ago or some such, this type of
>>> thing
>>> slips
>>> thru the cracks. It's not only the content experts but the support
>>> staff who
>>> keep tabs on what's been updated, when and who might be able to do
it
>>> now.
>>>
>>> I will contact the person who used to be in charge of the web
stuff
>>> about
>>> having buckthorn removed from at least the on-line version. Nancy
>>> Rose said
>>> she might have some time to review it and update it this winter..
>>>
>>> Beth Jarvis
>>> Yard & Garden Line
>>>
>>>
>>>> I know that responsible authors of University publications review
>>>> their
>>>> information on a regular basis, but for the ones that don't... I
>>>> came
>>>> across "Trees, Shrubs & Vines For Minnesota Landscape"
(publication
>>>> #
>>>> BU-00545 last reviewed 1997) that still lists buckthorn. Since
it's
>>>> on
>>>> the noxious weed list and not available in nurseries in
Minnesota,
>>>> the
>>>> author of this publication needs to eliminate the noxious weed
from
>>>> their list.
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/horticulture
/components/
>>>> DG0545shrub.html
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>> Ramsey County
>>>
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