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We live in the wetlands of Hugo, between White Bear Lake and Forest
Lake.
June
----- Original Message -----
From: Sue Westby<mailto:skwestby@frontiernet.net>
To: TERRANCE JUNE YOUNG<mailto:mnjayhawk@msn.com> ;
MG<mailto:mastgar@extension.umn.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
Could you please tell us what part of the state you are in? That helps
alot, I have tried the carpet roses, they lived three years in mild
winters and went toes up after a harsh no-snow-cover winter.
Thanks,
Sue
Lac qui Parle (western MN)
----- Original Message -----
From: TERRANCE JUNE YOUNG<mailto:mnjayhawk@msn.com>
To: MG<mailto:mastgar@extension.umn.edu>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
I have 5 Flower Carpet, 4 pink and 1 white. They seem to be getting
larger each year. I have had them about 6 years. They are now looking
like a carpet. There is no deadheading and they bloom all summer.
I am very satisfied with mine.
June
----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara A Gasterland<mailto:barbski@mn.rr.com>
To: Master Gardener MN.<mailto:Mastgar@extension.umn.edu>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
I did not buy any of the Carpet roses but I remember how there
was a
huge flush of marketing for them seemed like someone had spent
alot of
money on ads etc. and not any info on the actual hardiness of them
and
from my recollection many were lost thru the winter. As MG all
we
could speak on was the great advertising but new nothing more
about
them. I still see them out there in the nurseries but not like it
was
from the beginning.
Maybe I'm all wet here and out of line. Any of you rosarians have
any
comments and actual experience.
It's a known phenomenon to have introduction put out before the
trials
are done sometimes. It is a lengthy and costly process to breed
and
trial plants and then introduce them. Sometimes some of the steps
get
cut short or eliminated.
Is there less of a chance for that to happen when it is a
University
Introduction as opposed to a nursery introduction? I wonder.
Barb G. henn. Co.
On Monday, August 2, 2004, at 08:04 AM, George and Mary Devinny
wrote:
> What exactly didn't you like about the carpet roses. I had
three
> whites
> that last three seasons without protection and I thought they
were
> lovely,
> no disease etc.
> Mary D Olmsted Cty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barbara A Gasterland"
<barbski@mn.rr.com<mailto:barbski@mn.rr.com>>
> To: "Master Gardener MN."
<Mastgar@extension.umn.edu<mailto:Mastgar@extension.umn.edu>>
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
>
>
>> I'd sure would want to know the history of this before I would
be
>> recommending it to anyone or trying it myself. By History I
mean has
>> it
>> been trialed to know it is for sure sterile etc.
>> Guess I'm a bit pessimistic about such things. Sometimes it
seems that
>> people spend money on marketing rather than trials and
research. Like
>> what seemed to be the case with the Carpet Roses a few years
back.
>> Barb G. Henn. Co.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 02:21 PM, Art Schoot wrote:
>>
>>> I recently ran across a new variety of "buckthorn" that will
not
>>> produce
>>> seeds. It is again being used in hedges, etc. I wish I could
>>> remember
>>> where I saw it, but can not,so am wondering if anyone else has
seen
>>> info on
>>> it. I think we will have to be more specific when discussing
this
>>> particular plant and not condemn it based on the name
buckthorn!!! I
>>> will
>>> try to find the source of the info and will pass it on.
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
mastgar-admin@extension.umn.edu<mailto:mastgar-admin@extension.umn.edu>
>>> [mailto:mastgar-admin@extension.umn.edu]On Behalf Of Beth R.
Jarvis
>>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 3:46 PM
>>> To:
mastgar@extension.umn.edu<mailto:mastgar@extension.umn.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [Mastgar] Buckthorn
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Cindy,
>>>
>>> Dr. Eisel retired has been retired for some time. (I never
met
>>> him. )
>>>
>>> We've lost so many extension faculty appointments that there's
simply
>>> no one
>>> to do a lot of this. Realize, when you read about how the U's
>>> funding
>>> is at
>>> a level
>>> commeasurate w/what it was 20 yrs. ago or some such, this type
of
>>> thing
>>> slips
>>> thru the cracks. It's not only the content experts but the
support
>>> staff who
>>> keep tabs on what's been updated, when and who might be able
to do it
>>> now.
>>>
>>> I will contact the person who used to be in charge of the web
stuff
>>> about
>>> having buckthorn removed from at least the on-line version.
Nancy
>>> Rose said
>>> she might have some time to review it and update it this
winter..
>>>
>>> Beth Jarvis
>>> Yard & Garden Line
>>>
>>>
>>>> I know that responsible authors of University publications
review
>>>> their
>>>> information on a regular basis, but for the ones that
don't... I
>>>> came
>>>> across "Trees, Shrubs & Vines For Minnesota Landscape"
(publication
>>>> #
>>>> BU-00545 last reviewed 1997) that still lists buckthorn.
Since it's
>>>> on
>>>> the noxious weed list and not available in nurseries in
Minnesota,
>>>> the
>>>> author of this publication needs to eliminate the noxious
weed from
>>>> their list.
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/horti
culture/components/
/www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/horticulture/components/>
>>>> DG0545shrub.html
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>> Ramsey County
>>>
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