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From: alex massey (alexmass_at_blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: 07/01/07


Yes, thanks Jill.
My area of expertise is in humans: I'm just an amateur when it comes to 
poultry, and I'm sorry to have reached adulthood (which I definitely did, 
many years ago!) without a working knowledge of avian anatomy. It's even 
possible that there are others in the world with the same level of ignorance 
on the subject; Kylie may need to brace herself for more disappointment.
Disorders of the alimentary, urinary and reproductive systems in humans can 
cause cross contamination at all levels, with puzzling signs and symptoms. 
As Jill discerns, I merely suggested something of the same kind may be 
possible in hens.
Meanwhile, I am able to report that my three new white stars have begun to 
lay delicious snowy white eggs, which I will be having for breakfast!
Best wishes
Alex


"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:468607fd$0$8711$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> 0tterbot wrote:
>> "alex massey" <alexmass@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:gPAgi.28813$aS5.21376@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> Dear Cap,
>>> In humans it is possible, as a result of trauma or disease, for a
>>> fistula to develop between the alimentary system and the
>>> genito-urinary system. In humans this would result in
>>> cross-contamination; for example, faecal matter in urine, or passed
>>> 'per vagina'. I don't know whether this is applicable to birds,
>>
>> birds have cloacas - there is only one exit to be concerned with. i'm
>> moderately amazed anyone could reach adulthood without knowing this.
>> :-) kylie
>
> The discussion was about contamination of the egg during creation - not at 
> lay.
> Once the Egg has reached the Cloaca its formed and protected by the shell.
> So any surface contamination is not going to cause the issues that were 
> described in the OP's post.
> What Alex was suggesting was that maybe previous damage had caused a 
> problem deep inside the bird whereby faecal type material could get 
> incorporated into the egg at the initial stages of creation. It was 
> illustrated with what can happen in humans.
>
>>>> We have a couple Araucanas, and we're not positive yet who lays
>>>> which eggs.  Most of them are a pale green, about the same size. The 
>>>> eggs in question usually have a very dark yolk compared to the
>>>> other eggs. I don't know what they taste/smell like, but it's bad -
>>>> it sticks with you for a while if you take a bite.  My wife says it
>>>> smells like chicken sh*t.
>
>
> -- 
>
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
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> http://www.kintaline.co.uk
>
>
>
> 

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